It was a 6600 (not GT) and it didn't freeze, it just hung IIRC. Maybe I will try some old drivers, seems to have worked for you kx_mole. Something is very wierd, I'm thinking about ditching the whole PC and buyng a new one again!

mamynast - thanks for your persistance! Got there in the end. You have the same BIOS version as me and kx_mole but a much older date.

dawesdust_12: I think it is officially called "Phoenix Award BIOS"! What version do you have? Interesting that you have the key ingredients of what i suspect is causing the problem, but your is fine.

No, that's still not it!

Try downloading Bios Agent:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/The_BIOS_Agent_d5038.html

It's just a little program which tells you your BIOS info. If you could let me know the BIOS Type, Date and ID (first 3 boxes) that would be great

Thanks. I was mainly interested in the system BIOS though. Could you try what I suggested in post #99 again? Thanks, hope the driver sorts it for you.

I'd run drivercleaner before installing that new driver, especially as your old one sounds quite corrupt. See Post 18 on Page 1 of this thread. Let me know if you find the BIOS version. GL!

Hi Scawen. I have a problem where the screen freezes, sound loops, and no controller input is detected or network activity sent/received. This happens at random intervals, sometimes it will go for hours and be OK. There is a thread on it here (but probably no need to read that to answe my question)

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=26541&page=4

I've noticed other people having this problem (only with LFS) which can sometimes be solved by changing various settings. But I have had no luck after working away at it for many weeks now. I was wondering if you had any ideas on what sort of problems can cause this behaviour in LFS to help me focus my search a bit? Are there some things which LFS is quite sensitive too?

I'm not sure that's the right thing. I found an easier way though:

Open Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> System Information. Here you will find System Summary on the left and its contents on the right. See BIOS version/date.

You can do this:

Go to Start>run... and type regedit.exe

Then navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DESCRIPTION\System

Click on the word "system". Please let me know the SystemBiosDate and SystemBiosVersion. Be careful not to change anything in the registry editor! Thanks!

Hi mamynast,

Hope that driver sorts it out for you, let us know how you get on. What BIOS do you have, and what version?

Thanks bud, I'll do that!

I don't think it's a driver problem for me (as I've had problems with several driver versions and a different GFX card too). I more suspect the BIOS, so I might try flashing it tonight with the newer version. My mobo FAQ says to use the new version with my CPU anyway.

Quote from kx_mole :

ahh bad news...((
did you use the driver cleaner ? for me it is still ok

Yes, I used it.

I just got a freeze Slightly different to before, it froze for around 20-30 seconds then I got a BSOD. It said the file causing it was nv4_disp. The message said "problem with device/driver". Hmmm. :banghead:

Ow! :ambulance:

Got the :wizard: installed. Only played for half an hour but OK so far. Sometimes I will go for 3 hours or so without a freeze though. Will keep you posted...

Quote from The Moose :

Prob not adding anything to the thread, but i just thought i'd mention that the freezing/crashing probs i had with LFS were also on a socket'A' board with the Phoenix Award v6.00PG bios.

Thanks, certainly does add something. Especially interested to hear you had the same BIOS. I will definately update mine if moley's driver doesn't do the trick, I think I have found one newer version.

EDIT: My mobo is Socket 754 though.

Last edited by Nick A, Tue 24 Jul 2007, 14:56.

Could anyone with this problem please post their BIOS name and version? I have discovered that two of us with the same problem share the same BIOS and it's just about the only thing our machines have in common. Thanks!

I meant both really. Glad to hear it's still working. I will install your magic :wizard: driver tonight and give it a good test tomorrow.

Quote from kx_mole :

Today another 3 hours (off and online too) without freeze... I can suggest to the Geforce 5- users to test the driver I linked... Maybe I am lucky that there are no freezes, but maybe not... Give it a try. (I used driver cleaner before it.)

Well that's a decent amount of running time without a freeze, but I am surprised. Keep us posted.

I just noticed that we both have the same BIOS: Phoenix Award v6.00PG. Infact your AIDA report suggests updating you AGP BIOS becuase it is old (2002). Mine is 2003 but gave no suggestion. I'll look into upgrading it. Jakg - do you have any tips on how to do it?

Could anyone else with this problem please post their BIOS make and version?

Last edited by Nick A, Tue 24 Jul 2007, 08:05. Reason : Asking JakG for help!

Quote from Jakg :

EDIT - AMD 3700 - No Problems, but then it doesn't seem to be AMD users but specifically AMD Socket A users.

True, but I don't know the socket type of most of the people who have reported it. It seems to be 2400/2800/3000's etc, mainly Athlons (but mine is a Sempron - would they all be Socket A? I haven't seen a >3000 reporting the problem.

Any luck with fixing this? I have the same problem and suspect it might be related to AMD processors only. Mike 85 and ree44u: what processor do you have?

That filename had me worried for a moment. I suggest you post the problem in a seperate thread, I can't see that it has any relevance to the problem discussed here.

But I'm also wondering what proportion of the LFS community use AMD processors? It may just be that we have a high number of AMD users anyway? Anyone know?

Another thing I've been meaning to mention for a while...

I went through my replays of the crashes and I noticed that when online the car dissappears and then reappears after the freeze (appears as a lag). When offline, the car appears to continue in a straight line. It doesn't respond to any wheel input during the freeze. I suspect that the offline replay is filling in for the period where no input was recorded.

So it made me think that during the freeze no data is sent to the master server, no controller feedback is detected and no sound or GFX output happens. Sounds like a complete I/O lockup, so it also points towards something caused by or resulting in a problem at the core in the computer, like the CPU.

AMD eh, now there's a surprise

Wow, that was quick! If you have an external soundcard, make sure you disable the onboard one (if you have one). Best to do it in the BIOS. Also, make sure you have the latest version of DirectX installed, plus latest GFX drivers. They are probably the most likely to solve the problem.

It's under Control panel>Display>Settings>Advanced>Troubleshoot

Let us know how you get on. I wouldn't be surprised if your problem is fixable because most people with this problem have AMD, but I could be wrong .